DEs and WMs Opinions and Experiances

[CitricScion]

If you're on the traditional WM side of things (over tiling) its hard to go wrong with plasma lmao. What's your take on cosmic?

I think COSMIC looks awesome, but I haven't tried it yet. I actually just dug my old laptops out from storage so I may take Fedora COSMIC for a spin to see how it feels! PopOS was my first distro and I liked it, so I suspect I will like COSMIC as well.

[TeaInTheMorning]

I think COSMIC looks awesome, but I haven't tried it yet. I actually just dug my old laptops out from storage so I may take Fedora COSMIC for a spin to see how it feels! PopOS was my first distro and I liked it, so I suspect I will like COSMIC as well.

I'm also quite excited for cosmic! I'm going to try it when it's slightly less crash prone!
I've heard good things about Pop_! OS! Haven't tried it personally tho

Fedora always is making spins, aren't they
(I wonder if they have a sway spin >>, might be worth it to take a pitstop in fedora land to see how it's going!)

[Fireye]

Hyprland is solid software but if this is the guy in charge of it, i'm not exactly optimistic about its direction, and I'm certainly not comfortable dailying or contributing to it.

I paraphrased it a bit to hard in my Description sorry, Yeah it was quite Unprofessional of the Dev. Wouldn't contribute to it either, If I were a dev. I am in the process of moving away from it, but it is still the most Mature WM in the Wayland space as far as I have experienced. But the others are catching up and are at a level I am able to comfortably use.

Yeah it really is, which is pretty sad to see, but totally understandable. FOSS projects live and die by sheer mass of users so you end up getting a snowball effect, for better or worse. Just by using something youre contributing to it even if just by statistics.

Currently working on a whole bunch of hot corner updates! I currently have multiple hot corners as well as per-monitor hot corner settings working on a feature branch. I also have an experimental branch where I'm working on adding customizable shell commands to hot corners so you can make them do whatever you want. Here's my PR though if anyone is curious! https://github.com/YaLTeR/niri/pull/2108

While I haven't used the Hot Corner in the slights except when accidentally hitting it, this looks awesome. I would love to be able to set a custom command to my Hot corner.

The former was my main intention with the PR lmao. The hot corner was always neat but annoying to the point where I'd just turn it off & save myself the trouble. Custom commands are gonna be awesome though. I'm still halfway through the initial implementation, but I'll hopefully get that done sooner rather than later.

[Fireye]

Ya I'm of a similar mind on cosmic; can't wait till it's out of beta, as it seems like it'll be a super polished option that would work great as a linux introduction for newbies as well as a great de for ppl who just wanna use their machine. Development is so slow tho lmao, it feels like I've been hearing about it for years now

[TeaInTheMorning]

Ya I'm of a similar mind on cosmic; can't wait till it's out of beta, as it seems like it'll be a super polished option that would work great as a linux introduction for newbies as well as a great de for ppl who just wanna use their machine. Development is so slow tho lmao, it feels like I've been hearing about it for years now

Which is kind of wild, because the first alpha turned one a few days ago!!!!! (though it was announced all the way back in 2021)
So development is moving fast

(source: I am trusting wikipedia for these dates)

[CitricScion]

Fedora always is making spins, aren't they
(I wonder if they have a sway spin >>, might be worth it to take a pitstop in fedora land to see how it's going!)

Not only do they have a Fedora Sway spin, they also have a Fedora Sway Atomic spin if you want to use it with all the atomic goodness of Fedora Atomic Desktops.

[TeaInTheMorning]

Not only do they have a Fedora Sway spin, they also have a Fedora Sway Atomic spin if you want to use it with all the atomic goodness of Fedora Atomic Desktops.

Both seem quite intriguing!!!
I've always been distantly fascinated with atomic distros >>

[bgmeulem]

Yeah no the incident itself was definitely bad, but what really nailed the coffin was varxy's reaction to the whole thing. The guy just plain power tripped/antagonized the freedesktop people for reminding him of that professionalism, and proceeded to trash them on his blog rather than take the criticism constructively, which is just a huge red flag in my books. Here's a good summary of the whole chain of events that links to all the relevant emails and blog posts. https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024 ... ement.html

Hyprland is solid software but if this is the guy in charge of it, i'm not exactly optimistic about its direction, and I'm certainly not comfortable dailying or contributing to it.

Its worth noting that this blogpost is possibly overlt inflammatory (see e.g. https://build.opensuse.org/request/show ... _details_2). Not defending vaxry though, I do think what happened was tasteless, and vaxry's handling of it left a lot to be desired. This happened in the discord channel #general, allegedly not used for actual contributing. Yet here it is reflecting badly on hyprland anyways . Why there is a discord in the first place is beyond me. The software is great though.

To circle back to OP: I went gnome - KDE - i3 and now hyprland. While most examples of hyprland are very flashy (to show off what it technically can I guess) I prefer to keep mine clean and minimal. Learned a lot of lessons along the way, especially about just how much tools go into the average DE (I dont mean this derogatory, just honestly surprised how much work i3 and hyprland were). Currently thoroughly enjoying a clean and leightweight setup on hyprland, its *mwah*. Been eyeballing DWM too, but hyprland just works for me now and configuring it is remarkably easier than i3, so I may enjoy a nonbroken system for a while

[TeaInTheMorning]

To circle back to OP: I went gnome - KDE - i3 and now hyprland. While most examples of hyprland are very flashy (to show off what it technically can I guess) I prefer to keep mine clean and minimal. Learned a lot of lessons along the way, especially about just how much tools go into the average DE (I dont mean this derogatory, just honestly surprised how much work i3 and hyprland were). Currently thoroughly enjoying a clean and leightweight setup on hyprland, its *mwah*. Been eyeballing DWM too, but hyprland just works for me now and configuring it is remarkably easier than i3, so I may enjoy a nonbroken system for a while

Interesting!!!
Glad your system works for you!

[Fireye]

orth noting that this blogpost is possibly overlt inflammatory (see e.g. https://build.opensuse.org/request/show ... _details_2). Not defending vaxry though, I do think what happened was tasteless, and vaxry's handling of it left a lot to be desired. This happened in the discord channel #general, allegedly not used for actual contributing. Yet here it is reflecting badly on hyprland anyways . Why there is a discord in the first place is beyond me. The software is great though.

Not exactly sure what the link was supposed to convey other than someone saying something about drew having inflammatory takes. I personally don't really agree with that and regardless of whether or not you do, the actual problem was in the primary sources linked at the top of that blog post and not the summary therein. At a baseline, vaxry has enabled and encouraged some toxic shit in his community, and when reminded of the freedesktop community guidelines he doubled down on this shit and lashed out at them, even doxxing the freedesktop rep in one of his blog posts, before eventually retroactively editing it out. It's good software, yes, but if a maintainer can't take constructive criticism to save their life then I don't see the direction going well at all. And I definitely don't want to be representing such a project in my day to day, especially with how much I contribute to FOSS. I'd much rather slide to a slightly less feature rich alternative where the developers are sane and the community is non-caustic, as FOSS lives and dies off its community.

I don't fault hyprland users, after all it is certainly the most mature WM out there at the moment, but if you want that to change, or can live with something a bit less feature rich, I definitely recommend looking for alternatives.