What if you can't reject convenience?

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Hey y'all!

First of all, THIS IS SUCH A GOOD VIDEO and I'm not just saying this because RejectConvenience happens to be a long time friend. This content is genuinely so helpful and it has been such a privilege to watch this channel grow from a front row seat. And I'm so glad that we got to collaborate on a companion piece for this video!

In talking about how easy it is to get overwhelmed by navigating the landscape of digital privacy, we wanted to create a tool to help people organize their thoughts and outline what they need to feel good about using a app or service. That is how My Data Privacy Map was created!

You can view the tool here: https://drive.proton.me/urls/711YPEH3BM#ctuU9nAp95S8

This is a simple worksheet where you can outline your boundaries and preferences for what data is or is not okay for services to collect. In this file, you will find three versions:

1) A fully DIY option where you get to create your own scale for what makes you feel safe online

2) Taylor's Version: One that uses the same scale and color coding system from the Data Privacy Visualizer Tool

3) An example of what it could look like once filled out

We hope this is a helpful tool! If anyone has any feedback on how to improve/add/adapt it, PLEASE SHARE! Things like this are made all the better when we are able to learn from each other.

Thank you all for watching, for making this such a wonderful community, and for all of your support. <3
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Lasso3049 wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 3:19 pm There's a great thread on the Privacy Guides forum on this that explains it far better than I can: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/rev ... lear/17840. Because of these issues and possibly more, they currently don't recommend any Firefox-based browsers on Android despite recommending three Firefox-based browsers on desktop.

If you wanna avoid Brave because of its leadership and want to use Firefox on Android despite its issues, as long as you're aware of the issues I respect that. I just thought it was important to mention this to RC since he just recommended Firefox on Android to thousands of people who most likely aren't aware of these issues.

I happen to use Firefox on my computer myself, but because of the current state of Firefox on Android, I can't really in good conscience use it over alternatives like Brave, Cromite, or Vanadium on GrapheneOS that don't compromise on security in the same way.

By the way, could you give me more information regarding your claim about Brave not being open source? As far as I understand it is, and I can't find anything that suggest it's not. Its source code is up on GitHub under the Mozilla Public License 2.0.
Thank you for the link, I read through it a bit and interesting those are some Security Flaws that I did not Research, I really never bothered with researching this and assumed that Firefox on Android is as secure as the Desktop version.

And the Brave thing, thats what I get for not fact checking Info before Posting :roll: . I remembered somebody telling me it and I took it by Face Value. I should not have done that. Fact-Check your things Kids :lol: .

But in conclusion, time for Vanadium instead of Firefox on my Phone
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In the comments section for this video I saw that some people recommended a javascript blocker, which i've started using, and it's wild how many sites that you think would have static functions just...break. Except tumblr but thats not surprising
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I'll paste my Youtube comment first:
I love this video and this approach. When I first jumped down the privacy rabbit hole I let myself go a bit too far and started feeling increasingly frustrated and hopeless about the whole situation. I really appreciate the "threat model" approach, which seems similar to the window of tolerance idea you used here, instead of making people feel like it's either 100% all in or worthless failure. It's a lot more hopeful and it allows people to more comfortably ease into privacy awareness, acceptance of the existing issues, and action.
I also want to say man, I love how the video format is evolving. Keeping the general informational projector presentation base, but updating the art (said it before but I love the lighting effects and the window), bringing in some additional mii-like characters was neat and the nifty text showing up during that part, the Window of Tolerance was awesome with its associated sound effects ... just wanted you to know I really dig all the details you put effort into.
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Rocatex wrote: Sun Feb 23, 2025 3:24 pm In the comments section for this video I saw that some people recommended a javascript blocker, which i've started using, and it's wild how many sites that you think would have static functions just...break. Except tumblr but thats not surprising
One of my favorite things to do is to use a text-based browser (I prefer Links without graphics mode, Lynx is another good one) and see how well (if at all) websites render in it. Whenever I work on a site I try to ensure it works reasonably well in those, partially just because it's fun but also because I think it's a decent way for sighted folks to gauge what the visually-impaired and screen reader experience is like for accessibility.

But, yeah. I used NoScript for a while, and I sometimes still do. For daily driving I typically find it to be too much of a hassle. It's great to be able to switch on when I feel like wherever I'm about to go has a high risk associated, though.
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Great video! I'll be sharing it with a few communities that need to hear the overall message! Keep it up!
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Web browsers for social media apps mentioned!! 🗣️🗣️ Said this before and I'll say it again, web versions are a fairly functional intermediate between reducing the addictiveness of Instagram, and interacting with creators and friends.
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The most useful thing I've found when it comes to protecting your privacy is to start small. It would have been incredibly frustrating for me to go from signing into Google & Discord all the time on Windows to using Linux with an RSS feed, a hardened fork of Firefox, and Element Messenger. Even now, I'm still in the process of migrating to Element, and it's been years at this point.
But despite how long it's taken, and the inconvenience I went through, I'm genuinely much happier with how my computer works now. I don't have to deal with my computer advertising "Candy Crush" or whatever else to me. I waste less time watching pointless videos on Youtube since I almost never look at the home page. It's frustrating when I see people around me claim that it's "pointless" to try to protect their privacy, because I know that many of them could do it easily if they just didn't try to do it all at once.
I wouldn't tell someone who's just dipping their toes into protecting their privacy to install Gentoo & live in the windowless basement of a hut in the woods. It's about taking making the easiest changes you can at the moment. If you can do that, you might look back a few years later and realize that you've done a lot more than you initially planned.
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Re: What if you can't reject convenience?

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I agree up to a point. There are hurdles that are impossible to jump through self effort. There are solutions to some that are obscenely expensive, There are some that should not be possible.

A few examples:
>Sarbanes Oxley
>Company Policies
>Health
>Police Reports
>International Travel
>High Risk Individuals
>Political figures
>sex offenders
>family members (ie. 23andMe, Facebook with you in pictures, etc.
>guardian of a child with special needs.

Not that there aren't things they can do in other areas. The first step IMO is to define what privacy means to them. What is important.What is possible, What they are willing to do, What they can tolerate. I find myself in a comfortable spot in an 8 year long journey. There are those who would consider me paranoid and there are those who do consider me quite naive. There are things that I wish I could do better but they come at a cost that I cannot and will not pay. (ie. family, friends, etc). In pursuit of privacy I have seen those who have traded away their social lives, mental health, and/or physical health. I have found myself on the extreme end and had to scale back several times and more than once in one area. I agree with taking it slow, but also doing periodic sanity checks.
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