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How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:23 pm
by rejectconvenience
Let's say you just found an old iPod sitting around. If there is music on it, I would HIGHLY encourage you back it up before doing anything so you don't loose that data (even more so if the hard drive is dying and you want to replace it or flashmod it). I've have never found solid documentation on how to properly do this (for free, don't waste your time with those "iPod backup tools" that cost like $20), so here I've documented how to do it depending on what OS you are using.

Note: There will likely be music on the iPod that was purchased through iTunes. In many cases, those songs will be locked with DRM, and cannot be used (unless you have access to that original iTunes account, which I will add instructions to the bottom of this post on how to remove the DRM from those songs the legal way). Fortunately, the files that are locked are generally the same file type (from what I've found) .m4p. Because of this, it's pretty easy to run a script to filter those ones out when importing them to iTunes (if that's the software route you decide to take).

Note 2: The format of the original source does matter! If the iPod was originally synced to a Mac, you can only do this process on Linux/Mac, Windows will not be able to read a Mac formatted iPod. If the iPod was originally synced to a Windows computer, all 3 OS's can read it just fine. If you do not have a Mac while trying to back one of these up, I highly recommend creating a live USB with Ubuntu or whatever so you can copy the files that way. You can even pop them right into your Windows home folder if you wanted!

Linux
  • Plug in the iPod
  • Mount the iPod if it doesn't automatically
  • The folder we are looking for is hidden. It will be contained in the root directory of the iPod drive. In this case, we are assuming the iPod name is IPOD_DRIVE and is mounted in /mnt/:
    /mnt/IPOD_DRIVE/iPod_Control/Music
  • Copy the contents of the /Music/ directory to a location of your choice.

    Note: The files names will be random looking, and will not reflect the actual song titles (AKNK.mp3 for example). The song information is contained within the metadata, so it can normally be renamed automatically using a tool like FileBot (which is a paid program, but it honestly works really well in cases like this, and I believe is worth it if you plan on renaming these files). You can also leave the files as they are, but just be aware that if you plan on using RockBox, you may encounter some issues (I'm not sure if RockBox accounts for the metadata, I'd assume it does, though).
macOS
  • Plug in the iPod
  • The iPod will appear as a disk, named the same name as the iPod. Open the disk in Finder.
  • The folder we are looking for is hidden. To show hidden files, press 'Command' + 'Shift' + '.' (the period key) at the same time. When you can see the hidden files, navigate to the following:
    /iPod_Control/Music
  • Copy the contents of the /Music/ directory to a location of your choice. If you plan on using iTunes, put the files in a different directory to deal with files that might be DRM locked first. You can do this step within iTunes, but it's kind of a pain in the butt.

    Note: The files names will be random looking, and will not reflect the actual song titles (AKNK.mp3 for example). The song information is contained within the metadata, so it will import into iTunes correctly. If you want to rename all the files, I recommend a tool called FileBot, which is a paid tool, but works really well if you need to rename a ton of files.
Windows
I do not have a Windows computer to test this process on - this is just my assumption, please feel free to correct me and I will update it accordingly!

If the iPod asks to be formatted in File Explorer, DON'T! You will erase all the contents by doing this. Please refer to Note 2 at the beginning of this post to see what to do.
  • Plug in the iPod
  • The iPod will appear as a disk, named the same name as the iPod. Open the disk in File Explorer.
  • The folder we are looking for is hidden. To show hidden files, follow this guide https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... Windows_11. When you can see the hidden files, navigate to the following:
    \iPod_Control\Music
  • Copy the contents of the \Music\ directory to a location of your choice. If you plan on using iTunes, put the files in a different directory to deal with files that might be DRM locked first. You can do this step within iTunes, but it's kind of a pain in the butt.

    Note: The files names will be random looking, and will not reflect the actual song titles (AKNK.mp3 for example). The song information is contained within the metadata, so it will import into iTunes correctly. If you want to rename all the files, I recommend a tool called FileBot, which is a paid tool, but works really well if you need to rename a ton of files.

When you have copied the music files
In the cases of using iTunes/Music to re-import this music, I highly recommend the following (Windows/macOS only):
  • Quit iTunes/Music
  • Navigate to the music folder on your computer (the path structure is the same in Windows and macOS)
    iTunes: /Music/iTunes/iTunes Media/Automatically Add to iTunes/
    Music: /Music/Music/Media/Automatically Add to Music/
  • Copy the contents to this automatically Add" directory. You can include folders, it will parse those automatically.
  • When the copy is done, open iTunes/Music, and it will start moving things around for you!

If you have DRM files but you know the iTunes account
I am not 100% sure if the requires iTunes Match or not. I pay for this feature, so I'm not able to test this process without it. If it does, you can sign up for it here - https://support.apple.com/en-us/108935
  • Sign into the iTunes account, authorize the computer (this varies in almost every version, just search menus for that option)
  • Right click the song(s) you want to remove the DRM from
  • Select "Create AAC version"
    Note: This will create a duplicate version of the song, so you will have to clean up the old versions
If you have DRM files but you don't know the iTunes account
  • There is nothing you can do - these files are useless. Consider buying them or pirating them, I don't care when it comes to this process.

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:16 pm
by MikeGs
That's a very complete guide! Thanks! I might try Rockbox in the future so I don't have to go through all that process in case I delete my local copy ='')

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:12 am
by Stefen_Maxwell
MikeGs wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:16 pm That's a very complete guide! Thanks! I might try Rockbox in the future so I don't have to go through all that process in case I delete my local copy ='')
I have to have rockbox on my mini since I am running linux and don't have easy access to itunes. I had to ask my partner to restore my ipod when I flashed modded my mini.

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:18 pm
by MikeGs
Stefen_Maxwell wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:12 am I have to have rockbox on my mini since I am running linux and don't have easy access to itunes. I had to ask my partner to restore my ipod when I flashed modded my mini.
Oh yeah! Forgot about that. Soon I'll be installing Debian on my main machine. I'll make sure to flash Rockbox on my classic ^^

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:57 pm
by Stefen_Maxwell
MikeGs wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 10:18 pm
Stefen_Maxwell wrote: Tue Sep 03, 2024 6:12 am I have to have rockbox on my mini since I am running linux and don't have easy access to itunes. I had to ask my partner to restore my ipod when I flashed modded my mini.
Oh yeah! Forgot about that. Soon I'll be installing Debian on my main machine. I'll make sure to flash Rockbox on my classic ^^
I have finally found a way to transfer music to my ipod mini with the stock OS. I am using a strawberry ppa that was built with an open source ipod library. Here is the link if you want to install it and use it on debian.

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:25 pm
by MikeGs
Stefen_Maxwell wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 3:57 pm I have finally found a way to transfer music to my ipod mini with the stock OS. I am using a strawberry ppa that was built with an open source ipod library. Here is the link if you want to install it and use it on debian.
Awesome! Thank you so much!

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:28 pm
by Linkard
Thank you for the very clear and helpful guide ! This is gonna be very helpful for the Ipod I just came in possession of

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:54 pm
by Stefen_Maxwell
Linkard wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:28 pm Thank you for the very clear and helpful guide ! This is gonna be very helpful for the Ipod I just came in possession of
What did you get?

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:19 pm
by Linkard
Stefen_Maxwell wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:54 pm
Linkard wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:28 pm Thank you for the very clear and helpful guide ! This is gonna be very helpful for the Ipod I just came in possession of
What did you get?
A black 7th gen ipod from my dad. Since it has a metal body, and all the parts I need cost like a hundred bucks, I've been dreading this mod lmao

But @rejectconvenience came in clutch with this guide because the ipod contains a LOT of my dad's CD collection (CDs which my parents can't find anymore), and he doesn't have a backup of the files. So I'm going to use the techniques that RC gave and send the files over to him

Re: How to back up the existing music on an iPod

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:43 am
by rejectconvenience
Just updated the guide referencing the original format of the iPod that it was synced with. I also added a note in the Windows guide to not reformat the iPod if you asked to in Windows. As always, Windows makes everything harder by not being able to read a file system that other systems support, and really wants to use an outdated filesystem with horrible speeds and storage limitations.

(I may or may not hate Windows lol)